View Full Version : Jeremy Vine Show Wednesday 16th May
05-16-2007, 09:32 AM
On Today’s show:-
The Conservatives decide to ditch their policy on grammar schools.
Read the story here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6658613.stm
The Police Federation claim the police spend too much time chasing minor crimes for the sake of reaching targets.
Have you noticed an increase in the number of bookmakers in your high street?
And shocking smoking adverts are being condemned by regulators
See the advert here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6658335.stm
Over To You Guys
05-16-2007, 10:01 AM
1. Well, I came from a poor family and went to grammar school, and I'm a well educated, law abiding, model citizen. Mind you, I'm still part of a poor family.
2. There's no point in the police concentrating on major crimes. They get a far better imprisonment rate by arresting pensioners for non-payment of Council Tax.
3. My high street has a grand total of one shop, and it's not a bookie's.
4. Speaking as a slave to the weed, smokers need shock tactics to make them think.
05-16-2007, 10:27 AM
I live in an area of the country that still has state grammar schools. I don't understand why there is such an anti lobby against them.
The only criteria to getting into the schools is to pass the 11+ with the score required by each school as an entry requirement, the schools vary. How well off you are, what your family background is has not relevance on gaining entry at all.
For children who come from "poor" backgrounds, who are bright, want to get a decent education, and want to make something of themselves, a grammar school is the stepping stone, why should they be denied the chance?
05-16-2007, 10:40 AM
I can't understand this 'poor' background excuse either. You either pass the exam or you don't, or are they suggesting that people are paying bribes to get a pass?
05-16-2007, 11:01 AM
I have no idea Helen. And I have not heard about bribes being paid to get a pass, I have had four go through the 11+ and I cant see how that would be possible, but then I dont know. My youngest has taken (and passed )his 11+ this year, he is in a local village school, the whole class has been togheter more or less since reception, they have all been taught the same things, at the same time, by the same teachers, out of 26, three didn't pass, of those three, two were never going to, because they found reading very difficult, and the third one, just didn't get the score that was needed. And really its that simple when it comes down to it, the little chap who did got the score, his mum was upset to start with, mostly I think because it meant that for the first time since reception he would not be with his friends, but by the end of the weekend accepted that he would be out of his depth and will actually be better suited at the other school, and will know (because he has interest outide the school) other boys his age who are also going to go to the same school. I am not saying, that he will do less better at the end of the day for not having gone to the grammar school, but, that those who are going should not be deprived of that education.
If all schools taught to the same standard, with the same discipline, encouraged the same self worth and motivation, then the word Grammar attached to school, would be totall irrevelant.
I will listen to this bit of the programme and see, how much I can rant about it further!!! Sorry a real hobby horse of mine.
05-16-2007, 11:13 AM
I agree with you that the boy would have felt out of his depth. He will hopefull shine at whatever school he's at now.
I heard Gordon Brown the other night talking about 'young apprenticeships' and I think this is a step in the right direction. Not everyone can or needs to go to university. I hope Brown brings them in.
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